[Desktop_printing] Re: [Printing-architecture] Printing Summit
memo (for tomorrow sc meeting)
cbradney at scribus.info
Wed Feb 8 13:32:32 PST 2006
What about the ability to view PDFs in a browser, one page at a time. You dont
*necessarily* need to read the whole PDF.
What you need is an "optimised" PDF. The problem with this is you will need to
receive the full PDF from all the apps that cant write an optimised PDF and
then process it into the optimised format. Other than that, a spec needs to
be given to the apps that can produce PDF / libs and get them to add
optimised PDF support.
On Wednesday 08 February 2006 19:53, Hin-Tak Leung wrote:
> That's an interesting point - many had stated the pro's for pdfs.
> but the very property - the index at the end - which make pdfs useful
> (random seekable, extractable, rearrangeable) also means one has to
> spool the whole file before processing, and it is by nature a two-pass
> operation - at least, one have to see the end of a pdf file before
> one can confidently process it.
> SVG - read a big part of its spec, and it reads like postscript in
> xml syntax, actually. (and half of the board are adobe employees...).
> How exactly is SVG better than postscript, other than its XML'ness?
> (I remember seeing any pagination-like contructs or multiple-page'ness
> in SVG, but I could be wrong...).
> Are you confusing xsl-fo (xml-stylesheet-language formatting object or
> such) with SVG? xsl-fo (also an XML'ed thing) is actually quite close to
> pdf (and can embed svg) in concept, and also seems to have some adobe
> people involved. But like pdf, it is not streambable either
> [although more of the meta data is up front] and other than its XML'ness,
> I am not sure it is "better".
> Osamu MIHARA wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I just joined Desktop_printing ML and am on the way to understand what
> > is discussed for printing summit reading archived mails.
> > One thing I'm concerning is that transition of printing spool format
> > from PostScript to PDF. Moving spooling format from PS to other is a
> > good idea and PDF can be a candidate for it. However, the original PDF
> > from Adobe places meta information (dictionary) at the end of the PDF
> > file. This requires spooling all of the PDF file to spooler or renderer
> > before start printing. PDF/is is proposed by IEEE for facsimile
> > application in order to handle stream PDF, but it handles only raster
> > data and graphics information seems to be lost. Also streamed PDF is
> > provided from Adobe, but I heard that streaming technology about PDF
> > format is patented by Adobe.
> > Under these situation, adopting PDF to spool format can be problems in
> > many aspects.
> > I'd rather like to take SVG for the spooling format, as it is *OPEN*,
> > not under control of particular company and well designed graphic
> > format, although it has less actual results.
> > What do you think?
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