[lsb-discuss] LSB conf call notes for 2008-07-30
jeff at licquia.org
Thu Jul 31 19:50:36 PDT 2008
Attendees: Jeff Licquia, Jesper Thomschultz, Darren Davis, Stew
Benedict, Vojtech Pavlik, Mats Wichmann, Alexey Khoroshilov, Ted Tso,
Darren: Submitted last week's questions to the feature tracker, have not
heard answers to questions raised yet; engineers are busy. Jeff: is the
feature tracker public? Darren: Fate is the feature tracker for
openSuSE; just made available externally. Need Novell website user ID.
Once in, search for "LSB". Jeff: also need to make sure we are
involved in the project for that in SuSE.
Debian? Jeff: in etch and sid (3.1.1-2). Maintainer is Stuart
Anderson. Not sure why it's not in lenny. Mats: Stuart had asked if
there was any interest in bringing it up to speed.
Fedora? Mats: no one has worked on it. Ted: probably want to do
something short-term. Can we get anything into Fedora 10? Mats:
probably too late for F10, probably can get into F11. Ted: probably
best to get 4.0 things into Fedora. Jeff: agree.
Ted: next question is: does Stuart need help? Mats: sounds like he's
otherwise busy, so wouldn't mind patches sent his way.
Ted: SuSE goals? Vojtech: not unrealistic to target SLES, as long as
the engineering tasks are understood. Ted: timeline? Vojtech: not sure
how much can be shared. Ted: late November? Vojtech: probably too
late, need to check with other engineers whether a pre-release would be
OK. Would be interesting in getting anything we can integrated. Ted:
might be nice to review current code, esp. for new App Checker, if time
permits. Vojtech: may be able to.
Jeff: web site issues? Ted: Brian is hard at work at getting docs done
well enough for a launch last week. (ldn.linuxfoundation.org) Not
ready just yet, lots of holes still to fill in, but some of it is there.
Jeff: feature freeze on Aug 1? Mats: had been under the working
assumption is end of August, not end of July. Ted: how much would have
to be dropped if we froze tomorrow? Probably a lot. Mats: yes, a few
things pending. Ted: original idea was to start bugfixing on Aug 1,
beta 1 two months later, next beta in October. Could go to Aug 31, but
then only would have a month for bug fixes before first beta. Kay: not
always clear what the definitive tasks are. Mats: lots of pieces to be
updated. The Navigator is most up-to-date regarding implemented stuff.
There are bugs for things in Navigator but missing details. Jeff:
also, task status in ProjectPlan40. Kay: looking for more interfaces
and details. Ted: Navigator is best place for that.
Ted: how are we doing? Would it be worth adding a month to features?
Mats: lots to do, not necessarily splitting out new vs. bugs. Jeff:
most P1 bugs are bugs, not features. Looks like ALSA, printing
enhancements, RPM spec. Ted: Berlin, printing spec may need to be
postponed. Downside for printing? Jeff: mostly interest from driver
vendors. Ted: it seems we should close up things in progress rather
than start new stuff. Mats: seems like that's what we were doing.
Jeff: ALSA and RPM? Ted: RPM in progress (Stew's build tool plus bugs).
Jeff: so ALSA is the only non-started project. Ted: test suites? Jeff:
only libchk. Stew: appbat app, too. Ted: ISPRAS working on it?
Alexey: nothing short-term, more long-term. 2009. Ted: probably won't
have tests for ALSA in LSB 4; what to do? Mats: PulseAudio discussion?
Ted: no, not yet. Should probably split the table, move stuff we're
not doing to a second table. Mats and Jeff will do that. Jeff: still
want to consider ALSA. Ted: question is how wimpy the test suite is.
Jeff: summary, Ted: do a checkpoint two weeks from now, to see that the
features are getting in. Jeff: agenda item for August 13th call? Ted:
yes. Mats: Java is also an issue. Ted: issues with Java? Mats: which
spec? Required methods, classes, etc. Test suite question is also a
big deal. Ted: should follow up on these issues before Ron gets back.
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