[Ksummit-2012-discuss] [ATTEND] stable kernel stuff and grumpy maintainers [bisection/rebase/-next]

Guenter Roeck linux at roeck-us.net
Thu Jun 21 14:08:30 UTC 2012


On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 08:59:24AM -0500, Jason Wessel wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 08:45 AM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 21:24 +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 08:12:18AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 11:43 +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Strictly speaking, 32 randconfigs may only cover a small fraction of
> >>>> the full 32 combination space. That could be something improvable. 
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> But if you have a large number of people testing randconfigs and
> >>> different hardware, that would be much better wont it? A SETI project
> >>> for kernel builds ;-)
> >>
> >> Right. And just count me as one of them ;-)
> > 
> > Note, this was the motivation for pushing ktest. To get more people an
> > easy setup to automate their tests. It wasn't to replace a setup if you
> > already had one. It was to get new people to have a drop in tool that
> > they can easily run randconfig tests or other things on their kernels.
> > 
> > It was to try to get that SETI mentality wrt kernel testing.
> > 
> 
> 
> There are really two groups we need to break into for the mentality.
> 
> 1) The arbitrary developer who submits something to a maintainer.
> 
>    * Updating the "process for contributing" with some more
>      recommendations like "do this..." would be good.
> 
Getting people to read Documentation/Submit* would be a great start.

Guenter

> 2) The maintainers with non-reversible trees
> 
>   * Having a maintainer who can get a 24 hour period before etching
>     something in stone in non-reversible branches would be a world
>     better than what we have today.
>     
>   * It is not clear if maintainers would bite on this or not, just
>     because I would doesn't mean anyone else will.
> 
> Jason.
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