[Ksummit-2012-discuss] [ATTEND] stable kernel stuff and grumpy maintainers

Paul E. McKenney paulmck at linux.vnet.ibm.com
Thu Jun 21 01:39:35 UTC 2012

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:46:57AM -0400, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 09:56:06AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > The bottom line is that adding more tags and process to changelogs
> > > doesn't solve the fundamental problem which is that a lot of people
> > > can't write good changelogs in the first place.
> > 
> > I agree that is an issue. Maybe we need to push maintainers to push back
> > on change logs. Not to pull if a change log is not up to stuff. Or have
> > Linus or Greg start being more vocal when they see crappy change logs.
> Part of the problem is that for some of the contributors, English
> isn't their first language.  I've very often had to rewrite the change
> log for that reason; in some cases, it was so mangled that even though
> it was a paragraph full of text, I couldn't parse it at all, and I had
> to send back a "huh?  Is this what you meant?" message.

I have occasionally resorted to using translate.google.com to convert
back to their native language, then translating back to English.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

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