[Accessibility] minutes: Open A11y Call, 18 July 2008

Tue Jul 15 14:04:06 PDT 2008

aloha, all!

although there was not a quorum at today's Open Accessibility workgroup
call, those who did attend did discuss the issues on the agenda: namely,
updating the AT-SPI DBus wiki page, located at:

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/ATK/AT-SPI/AT-SPI_on_D-Bus

and coordinating Open A11y's efforts with other fora, especially 
live.gnome.org

the attendees also discussed Open A11y's Statement on Desktop 
Interoperability (SOI), which is located at:

http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yweb/soi.php

details can be found in the minutes located at:

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/Minutes/Minutes20080715

excerpts from the minutes pertaining to the DBus wiki and SOI update
are also included at the end of this emessage...

as usual, please log any errors, omissions, corrections and/or 
clarifications by replying-to this post on-list...

Workgroup members are asked to pay special attention to topics 1 and 2:

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/Minutes/Minutes20080715#Topic_1:_Update_on_AT-SPI_on_Dbus_Wiki

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/Minutes/Minutes20080715#Topic_2:_Does_the_Statement_on_Desktop_Interoperability_.28SOI.29_Need_Updating.3F

and to consider the list of "Resources in Search of a Maintainer", which
can be found at:

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/Minutes/Minutes20080715#Resources_in_Search_of_a_Maintainer:

the following "New Action Items" were logged at today's teleconference:

ACTION: GJR - ping Willie Walker, Mark Doffman, and Rob Taylor about 
              coordinatrion of resources between Open A11y and GNOME Live

ACTION: MG - review and propose revisions to DBus port wiki page 

ACTION: OS - email PeteB about problems with international dial-in 
             numbers 

ACTION: GJR - post news item about OlafS' participation in Akademy2008 
              Conference 

ACTION: GJR - ensure that SOI and DBus discussion included in minutes 
              notice to be sent to group 

ACTION: GJR - add link to link Open A11y's ATK/AT-SPI Technical 
              References, highlighting the DBus wiki page to the 
              top of SOI

the next Open A11y conference call is scheduled for 22 July 2008, at 
1800h UTC -- an agenda is available at:

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/Minutes/Agenda20080722

note that since there was not a quorum at the 15 July 2008 call, the 
minutes from 10 June 2008 have not yet been approved -- the URI with 
which to review the minutes of the 10 June 2008 Open A11y conference 
call is:

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/Minutes/Minutes20080610

EXCERPT FROM MINUTES 2008-07-15

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Topic 1: Update on AT-SPI on Dbus Wiki 

JS: MGorse, any updates? 

MG: starting to move towards working on mono stuff, rather than DBus; 
will return to that aspect of the project on as-needed basis; MarkD 
working on DBus port; work i've done is close to testable, but don't 
know how much can do unilaterally -- may need help testing when pyatspi 
ready to test; might identify things in common that need fixing; 
question of where to put things; Open Accessibility makes sense because 
not GNOME-centric but agnostic 

JS: agree -- Open Accessibility's intentions are stated well and clearly 
in the Statement on Desktop Interoperability (SOI) -- Open 
Accessibility's goal has always been independence from any particular 
toolkit or desktop; AT from GNOME and KDE working on other desktops; keep 
user's perspective -- user doesn't care where certain desktop 
functionalities come from, as long as it is there and plays well with 
other implementations and applications; might be good to have 
documentation at Open Accessibility 

MG: might become free desktop project; right now code on codethink server 

GJR: needs to coordinate with live.gnome.org -- will email Willie Walker 

MG: DBus stuff on live.gnome.org by MarkD and Rob; some of it may not be 
relevant any more -- investigation, design notes; 

JS: people in our orbit 

GJR: will ping WW, MD, and RT to ensure coordination of resources 
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Topic 2: Does the Statement on Desktop Interoperability (SOI) Need Updating? 

JS: SOI - hasn't been updated since 2005 

JS: moving off of CORBA even in GNOME - DBus wiki needs update; perhaps 
SOI needs an update itself?

JS: perhaps an addendum for SOI to bring people up-to-date and points them 
to the wiki? 

JS: Olaf, could you consider a proposal for updating SOI; MikeG -- ideas 
and updates for DBus wiki page? 

GJR: listed under resources in search of a maintainer 

MG: will take a look, and post to list; also some info at live.gnome.org 
which is complementary or redundant -- need to cross-check and coordinate 

OS: main focus should be on updating DBus page; need documentation; need 
to help new people to get involved; won't be able to do much technical 
work on it now, but critical for attracting new participants and 
contributors 

OS: need to make accessible to developers 

JS: update SOI? 

OS: first idea would be to leave text as is and to put paragraph at top 
with links to current work 

GJR: would a link to Open A11y's ATK/AT-SPI Technical References 
[http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/ATK/AT-SPI/Reference] 
suffice for SOI? 

OS: ok, but highlight DBus page 

GJR: ok, will do 

JS: olaf, want to propose new text for SOI? 

OS: better to compose when DBus wiki page is updated 

JS: ok 

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