[Accessibility-ia2] Relations to move to previous/next paragraphs
Pete Brunet
brunet at us.ibm.com
Mon Dec 15 17:08:33 PST 2008
Malte, How much of a burden would it be to provide flows from/to relation
between all the objects. Today the AT has to go out to the document
object to make the connection between paragraphs. Please see Mick's
comment in item 8 of the minutes for the prior IA2 meeting at
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/IAccessible2/Minutes/20081202
Pete Brunet
IBM Accessibility Architecture and Development
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From:
Malte Timmermann <Malte.Timmermann at Sun.COM>
To:
Pete Brunet/Austin/IBM at IBMUS
Cc:
Accessibility-ia2 at lists.freestandards.org
Date:
11/19/2008 11:05 AM
Subject:
Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Relations to move to previous/next paragraphs
Sent by:
Malte.Timmermann at Sun.COM
When I suggested the "prev/next" stuff in that CSUN meeting, I was not
sure about the concrete name, but "flows from/to" was exactly what I
meant. I didn't want to define an additional one.
For the implementation:
IIRC, our (OOo Accessibility API) intention was to help AT to follow the
text flow correctly, when ONE paragraph flows to multiple pages,
optionally divided by some header/footer:
<PARAGRAPH-XY - only some part of it on page n>
<optional: page footer>
<optional: page header>
<PARAGRAPH-XY - on page n+1, rest of the SAME paragraph on prev page...>
The intention was to then connect the two paragraphs via flows from/to.
There was no intention to connect all paragraphs this way in reading
oder, and also not to do anything special in the table scenario
described below...
Malte.
Pete Brunet wrote, On 11/19/08 03:01 AM:
>
> At the CSUN F2F earlier this year we discussed the issue of an AT easily
> getting access to the previous and next paragraphs. Today the AT has to
> go to the parent and then to the previous or next child. It was
> suggested that maybe IA2 needs new "preceeded by" and "followed by"
> relations. There are already the flows from/to relations. Is there any
> reason why flows from/to can't be used to link all paragraphs?
>
> Xing Li (Syphony a11y development) provided the following scenario where
> a table is inserted between two paragraphs
> Paragraph A
> Table T
> Paragraph B
> and asked what the relations would be in that scenario and if
> flow-from/to is a must for all paragraphs.
>
> *Pete Brunet*
>
> IBM Accessibility Architecture and Development
> 11501 Burnet Road, MS 9022E004, Austin, TX 78758
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