[Accessibility-ia2] IA2 and OpenOffice revisions

[Malte Timmermann]

I am not aware of any plans for improvements/enhancements in OOo wrt this.

Malte.

Pete Brunet wrote, On 12/ 2/08 06:26 AM:
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>>Currently, the OOo Writer does not support change tracking for tables,
>>table rows, table cells and anchored objects (text frames, graphics,
>>embedded objects and drawing objects).
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>  Malte, Are there plans to add support for these?  If so, is it spec'd yet?
> 
> *Pete Brunet*
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> *Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems
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> 11/11/2008 06:27 AM
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> Hi Pete,
> 
> sorry for answering so late.
> I had to prepare my attendence at the OOoCon 2008 and then had a great
> week in Beijing, China attending the conference.
> 
> See my comments inline below.
> 
> Pete Brunet wrote:
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>> Oliver and Niklas, What are you thoughts on the two questions Malte asked?
>>
>> *Pete Brunet*
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>> *Malte Timmermann <Malte.Timmermann at Sun.COM>*
>> Sent by: Malte.Timmermann at Sun.COM
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>> 10/24/2008 12:22 PM
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>>                  Pete Brunet/Austin/IBM at IBMUS
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>>                  Accessibility-ia2 at lists.freestandards.org,
> William.Walker at Sun.COM,
>> Niklas Nebel <Niklas.Nebel at Sun.COM>, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>> <Oliver-Rainer.Wittmann at Sun.COM>
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>>                  Re: IA2 and OpenOffice revisions
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>> OK...
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>>  > What is the solution for non-text attributes, e.g. tables, images,
>> charts, cells, spreadsheets?
>>
>> Not sure how OOo handles that at all, Oliver/Niklas might know better
>>
> 
> Currently, the OOo Writer does not support change tracking for tables,
> table rows, table cells and anchored objects (text frames, graphics,
> embedded objects and drawing objects).
> 
>>  > How are comment only revisions handled?
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>> Don't think we have that in OOo
>>
>>  > Probably need more kinds of format changes besides insertion,
>> deletion, and format change.
>>
>> "Probably" here sounds like "might it be?" - a question some people
>> blindly answer with "yes" stating everything can be ;)
>>
>> AIA Interop group better should come up with something more concrete.
>>
>>  > Is more granularity needed for format changes, i.e. is it enough to
>> just say there was a format change or should the kind of format change
>> be indicated?
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>> I think we discussed this, but can't remember why we decided on the
>> simpler solution...
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>>  > Use cases are needed.
>>
>> I am happy to look at them if anyone provides some ;)
>>
>>  > getSegmentAtOffset (singular) needs to be getSegmentsAtOffset
>> (plural) because unlink links there could be overlapping insertions and
>> deletions.
>>
>> Sounds reasonable to me, but I must admit that I (again) don't know
>> if/how OOo handles that.
> 
> In OOo Writer there are no overlapping revisions/change trackings. The
> OOo Writer breaks a certain change tracking into corresponding pieces,
> if the user creates overlapping revisions/change trackings. Thus,
> revisions/change trackings are properly nested in OOo Writer.
> 
> But nevertheless, there can be several change trackings at a certain
> cursor position. Thus, the proposed change is reasonable.
> 
> 
> Regards, Oliver.
> 
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>> Oliver/Niklas - any comments?
>>
>> Malte.
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>> Pete Brunet wrote, On 10/21/08 11:21 PM:
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>>  > Malte, Li Yuan would like to get started on implementing the ATK/AT-SPI
>>  > equivalent of the IA2 proposal to handle revisions.  Before he can go
>>  > ahead we need to handle the issues raised by some Microsoft engineers
>>  > during an AIA (Accessibility Interoperability Alliance) meeting back in
>>  > July.  Please take a look at the comments from MS list in item 10 on
>>  > this agenda:  
>>  >    
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> http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/IAccessible2/Agenda/20081021
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Thanks,
>>  > *Pete Brunet*
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