[Accessibility-atspi] minutes Open A11y Telecon 2010-01-12
Gregory J. Rosmaita
oedipus at hicom.net
Tue Jan 12 21:59:38 PST 2010
aloha!
minutes from the 12 January 2010 Open Accessibility Workgroup
teleconference are available as hypertext at:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/Minutes/Minutes20100112
and as plain text following my signature. as usual, please report any
errors, mis-attributions, corrections, additions, and clarifications by
replying-to this announcement on-list.
the next Open A11y Workgroup Conference call will be held at 1600h UTC
on 26 January 2010 - find the meeting time and date in your time zone
using the following link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=26&year=2010&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=0
a preliminary agenda for the 26 January 2010 Open A11y Conference call
can be found at:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/Minutes/Agenda20100126
thank you, gregory.
----- MINUTES OF THE 2010-01-12 OPEN A11Y WORKGROUP CONFERENCE CALL -----
Open A11y Workgroup Conference Call (12 January 2010)
NOTE: These minutes have not yet been finalized.
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Preliminary Items
Participants
* Janina Sajka (JS/chair)
* Pete Brunet (PB)
* Gregory J. Rosmaita (GJR/scribe)
* Brad Taylor (BT)
* Will Walker (WW)
* Jeremy Whiting (JW)
* regrets: Mike Gorse (MG)
Introductions
JS: Janina Sajka, chair of Open Accessibility Workgroup of the LF,
chair of the PFWG at the W3C; experience in standards development and
IT deployment; professional and consumer of technology
* http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
GJR: vice-chair, webmaster and listmaster Open Accessibility
Workgroup; been in standards setting organizations for 15 years;
umbillically connected to computer and assistive technology
* http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/User:Oedipus
WW: Will Walker, maintainer of Orca; also work on general GNOME
accessibility
* http://live.gnome.org/Orca
PB: chair of IAccessible SIG; worked for IBM's Accessibility Group;
using IA2 to extend capabilities of MSAA -- dramatically improved
accessibility over MSAA; currently working with the Adaptive
Technology Resource Centre (ATRC) at the University of Toronto to come
up with Java Access Bridge that complies with IA2 and developments
since original accessbridge deployment
* http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/IAccessible2
* http://atrc.utoronto.ca/
BT: software manager for Novell; mono port and accessibility team;
working on bridges, interfaces, EDK for moonlight -- first accessible
flash-type plug-in for linux
* http://mono-project.com/Accessibility
PB: anything being done client side for UI interface?
BT: take fully managed AT for windows, drop into linux and run
PB: current capability?
BT: testing; porting UIAVerify (test tool and GUI from Microsoft) to
read ATK applications; also using White, a testing library, which is a
very useful testing tool for windows; can take white and drop windows
app into linux and test
* http://www.codeplex.com/UIAutomationVerify
* http://www.codeplex.com/white
JW: Jeremy Whiting; working on KDE for 4 years; architectural speech
team that developed [ SpeechDispatcher]; not a user of AT, but do
listen to IRC during the day to keep in touch with KDE Speech Users
_________________________________________________________________
For Reference
* Agenda for the 12 January 2010 Open A11y Call
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/Minutes/Agenda20100112
_________________________________________________________________
Announcements & News
AT-SPI2 0.1.5 Available for Download (2010-01-11)
AT-SPI2 is a D-Bus based accessibility framework. It defines a D-Bus
protocol for providing and accessing application accessibility
information. The project includes a library for bridging the D-Bus
protocol to the ATK API, allowing Gtk based applications to be made
accessible. It also contains a client (AT) side library in Python.
AT-SPI2, version 0.1.5 is available for download at:
* http://download.gnome.org/sources/pyatspi/0.1/
* http://download.gnome.org/sources/at-spi2-core/0.1/
* http://download.gnome.org/sources/at-spi2-atk/0.1/
AT-SPI2 0.1.5 Release Notes
This is a development release of AT-SPI2, it has some unfinished
features.
A list of work required before a full release can be found at:
http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/BonoboDeprecation
For more information about the release of AT-SPI2 0.1.5, please
consult the accessibility at lists.linuxfoundation.org archive, in
particular:
https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-atspi/2009-December/000603.html
_________________________________________________________________
Meeting Minutes
Topic 1: AT-SPI on D-Bus Port: Progress and Issues
* AT-SPI on D-Bus Port wiki page last updated 30 October 2009 by
Mike Gorse
+ MikeG is maintaining the AT-SPI on D-Bus Port wiki page, and
will add info about AT-SPI2 development releases to the D-Bus
wiki page
Discussion of Topic 1: D-Bus Port Update
WW: talked to MarkD about release that just went out; working on bug
that cropped up with leasing model; going to be working on fixing
that; almost functionally complete -- need to build and debug and
debug
WW: worked with JW last week getting things to run on KDE, need more
testing and bug filing from Jeremy
WW: imperative that we start trying to grow out number of people using
D-Bus and get as many bugs and fixes
WW: have to update CORBA to D-Bus mapping wiki page -- a lot of
questions about coexistence of CORBA and D-Bus need to address
WW: just need to keep on hammering away; let's grow the number of
people testing the D-Bus port; why i wanted to get JW involved testing
on KDE
JS: looking forward to driving KDE apps with Orca
JS: long awaited development
WW: referred Jeremy to mechanics of GNOME accessibility document -- if
can figure out how maps to KDE, could use as basis for saying here is
what you need
JS: freeswitch is planning to build GUI interface for managing
telephony in QT4.6
Topic 2: Open Accessibility Document Licensing
JS: meeting with KarenC and Andrew Kirkpatrick of Adobe and Adobe's
main standards person; tight timeline on update about licensing and
AIA; agreed on what Adobe needs in order to support IA2
JS: agreed if necessary can go out with BSD license and then
re-certify; would be best to get Microsoft on board for a single
release, one announcement, so development can move forward in tandem
JS: the test that one needs to pass to qualify for the phrase in the
Microsoft Community Promise that one has implemented the spec properly
and hence qualify for free usage
PB: Microsoft requested that we add 2 methods, but they seem to be the
only consumer for them at present -- going to take work to change
headers and rebuild files and everything
JS: Adobe not using 2 methods yet, just what is in IA2 1.0.2
PB: IA2 files currently have LGPL2 statements; need to know Adobe's
and MS' schedule so can change IA2 documentation
GJR: PB, please email me details of what needs to be changed and i can
tweak doxygen templates for 2 potentialities
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New Business
CSUN 2010
JS: who will be at CSUN 2010?
WW: i shall; Eitan Isaacson organizing a GNOME access
meeting/hack-fest; trying to get some people funding in order to
attend; goal: exposing more mainstream developers to accessibility so
can make accessibility part of daily discipline
JS: recommend JW attend; unique opportunity to learn and network
Identify Topics for Remaining January 2010 Teleconferences
JS: do we need to meet next week 19 January 2010?
WW: vote to skip a week; have to hammer away on bugs; day-to-day
engagement; don't think need to regroup
PB: ok with skipping 19 January as long as keep hammering on LF for
licensing
RESOLVED: no meeting 19 January 2010; next Open Accessibility
Workgroup call will be held on 26 January 2010
Wrap Up
* meeting adjourned 1644h UTC
* next Open A11y conference call: 2010-01-26
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Retrieved from:
* http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/Minutes/Minutes20100112
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